The brothers Jackson, Matt and Nick, were recent guests on The Wrestling Perspective Podcast where they opened up about their early run with IMPACT Wrestling, formerly known as TNA. The Bucks explain that things were a mess back in those days, and that they were fighting on a week to week basis to not only get paid, but to appear on the show.
NICK:They split us up and we became a singles act for two months, and then for no reason at all we got back together and nothing was explained by it, so after that I told Matt that these guys don’t care about us at all so we felt that at point we felt that the writing was on the wall so we were thinking, hey, maybe we go elsewhere and then come back here and then they would take us seriously. That was our thinking at the time, but it was just a little bit of everything that happened.”
MATT:We had a bad deal also. It was our first contract we ever signed so we’ve learned a lot since then, but it was the first deal we were ever offered so immediately without negotiating we signed it. It was a bad deal and basically we were getting paid per appearance and they decided to keep us home for a long period of time, which meant that we were literally making $0 some months.
NICK:I remember some weeks they would fly one of us in that wasn’t even working on the show so we would be in Florida and not be paid because they forgot to book us but they would have us fly there. I said, wait a minute, we are flying all the way down here, doesn’t that count as work? They were like no, you have to be on TV to make money. There were a few times that we flew there and didn’t get paid.
MATT:It is different now and the whole team has changed, but back then it was a mess. We didn’t know who was in charge of what. I had to keep getting on Terry Taylor, who was in charge of Talent Relations, but I had to get on him every few weeks demanding where my check was? I had to pay rent but my checks weren’t coming on time. It was bad. We were at a point where we were like, we are young, we know that we are good. It is obviously not working out here, and like Nick said, maybe we can come back in a couple of years and they can see the value in us and we can get better deals the next time around.
NICK: It was the best decision we ever made. I remember the next year we made more money on the independents than we did with our TNA contracts.
The Bucks would go on to compliment their time in NJPW as the moment that their careers staring skyrocketing to what it is now.
NICK: I think it was the Bullet Club because as soon as that happened things just exploded for us. Everyone wanted to book us; our merchandise went crazy. I feel like The Bullet Club was the first thing that helped us out.”
MATT: I think New Japan was going through this strong point where people were kind of discovering it. Once we went to New Japan we kind of took our independent fans with us from the United States to Japan, but I think the New Japan thing happened and then things like Pro Wrestling Tees escalate what we look like as stars precision wise, getting into Hot Topic, getting our own Funko Pop, it was really a collection of series of really fortunate events that helped spark things and we just so happen to have a really strong body of work in those three years I think, and people started talking about our matches and social media got really popular at the time and we utilized that. A lot of things. Nick and I never really quit. Once we felt that it was getting bigger we just kept putting our foot on the gas and we never really stopped until this day. We are very fortunate that things have worked out the way they have for us.